o API's feature set - scene graph based? The scene graph is arranged with geometry nodes (osg::Geode's) as leaf nodes and internal nodes such as osg::DCS's/Groups/LOD etc for position the geometry objects within the scene and organizing scene behavior. - culling techniques? Currently view frustum culling, small feature culling, and OpenGL's native backface culling. The OSG has been designed so it can be easily extended, so if you have a favored culling technique it won't be difficult to utilize it in the OSG. - terrain / indoor support The osg::GeoSet encapsulates all the main OpenGL drawing primitive so its possible to represent pretty well anything you can with straight OpenGL including terrain and room objects and characters. More details below. However, if you wish to take advantage of specific optimization such as adaptive meshing such as ROAM, or procedural culling such as when entering a room or when racing round a track then the OSG's could be easily extend to achieve this. This is demonstrated in VTP Enviro which is is based on the OSG, extended osg::GeoSet to provide CLOD for terrain. These features are not currently on the todo list for version 1.0 as we intend to keep the OSG focused on the core scene graph. However, you're more than welcome to take on the challenge yourself. - etc, etc (the viz sim capabilities of it) Key features of OpenGL are encapsulated such as Points, Lines, Triangle and Quad Meshed primitives in osg::GeoSet, and Textures, Projected & Environmental Textures, Transparency etc. in osg::GeoState. The osgUtil::RenderVisitor currently implements the cull/draw traversal placing objects to be rendered in either a transparency bin or a opaque bin. The transparent bin is depth sorting w.r.t to the eye point to ensure transparent objects appear correctly. The opaque bin is sorted w.r.t to their osg::GeoState to minimize OpenGL state changes to avoid cache misses in the rendering pipeline. osg::Billboards can be used for rendering trees, or even particle effects such a smoke, snow, explosions etc. o What is the design philosophy behind the OSG. (An extract from an email from Don Burns beginnings of the OSG.) Thought I'd jot a couple of thoughts down regarding OSG. A full simulation package should really be made up of four parts: - Scene Graph - Traversers (App, Cull, Draw) - An MP harness - Channel configuration The Scene Graph is just that. It manages a tree structure of different node types that allow management over the behavior of graphical objects. The Traversers allow us to use the scene graph to render scenes in the most efficient manner, as well as providing maximum functionality for a real-time simulation. The stages are (taken from the Performer approach) : App - This is the application part of the simulation that interfaces with the outside world, that is control devices, pilot input, animation engines, effects, event engines, etc, etc (there's much more). This is also the stage that determines what the viewpoint is and consequently the viewing frustum. App does a full traversal of the scene graph, calling callbacks that may be attached to nodes. Cull - This stage takes the information that has been updated by App (mainly the viewing frustum) and effects a cull of all objects, based on trivial accept or reject based on whether the bounds are contained in the viewing frustum or not. Every node should have a bound associated with it reflecting the bounds of all children under it. This way, Cull can quickly prune a large section of the scene graph, during traversal. It also implies that scene graphs should be organized spatially, such that groups of objects that are close to each other should also be close to each other on the scene graph. During traversal, Cull gathers all leaf nodes that wind up being trivially accepted and creates a display list of geosets with their geostates. These are then sorted by geostate, binning things like states that contain transparencies, and need to be sorted back to front and drawn last. Cull can also perform accepts/rejects of geosets based on their bounding boxes. Note that geosets have bounding boxes and geodes have bounding spheres. This for efficiency. Cull also needs to gather nodes that would cause any glcommands, such as SCSs and DCSs which create transforms. Draw- This does not traverse the scene graph, but rather, traverses the resultant display list produced by Cull. Draw is to be as brain-dead as possible since it has the bulk of compute time reserved for actually drawing. (Unless, of course you have the luxury of an SGI machine that does all transforms down in the graphics hardware... perhaps NV10 will help a bit on this end). The MP harness is a set of management routines for doing multiprocessing. Ideally, you want to be able to run App, Cull and Draw as separate processes on their own dedicated processors. Further, you want to run one complete Draw process for every graphics subsystem that you will be rendering to. In our case, we can assume that most of our users will be on single processor PC's, in which case we stand to benefit from Cull's capability to prune the scene graph, but not much else. However, this day and age four processor PC's are not that uncommon, and Linux does have pretty good support for this. The MP issues include, process (or thread) management and synchronization. Performer has several MP models. We also need to consider that this software will probably run on separate PCs altogether, so that the SGI concept of a single machine with multiple rendering pipes needs to be extended to include multiple PC's, which need to be synchronized across Ethernet or something. Note that each Draw process needs its own Cull process, but that there can be only one App for multiple Cull/Draw pairs. This model might extend quite nicely to a multiple PC environment, in which each PC runs a Cull/Draw pair, and one central machine runs App, broadcasting the viewing frustum for each viewing channel and synchronizing all. Lastly, channel configuration. Currently we now do this by opening a window, choosing a visual, size, etc. It is often desirable to have multiple channels (or viewports) for one simulator. There is a whole package of routines that can be written to set this up and initialize it. That all being said, as I write this my feeling is that we should limit the scope of OSG to that of only the first item above. That is, Open Scene Graph will be a Scene Graph and nothing more. Limiting the scope will allow us to concentrate on quality and robust functionality. This is one of the best software steps that was taken during the design of OpenGL, in my opinion. I recall Iris GL and all of its end-all, be-all approach, becoming very convoluted and confusing as it tried to be a windowing system, an input device interface, an imaging package and so forth. Once the spec defined it as being a rendering API and nothing more, the picture got much clearer. Once OSG is in place and it becomes useful, we can then write the traversers, etc, but not limit our version of traversers. My thinking is that we can publish examples and documents on How to Write an OSG Traverser, or some such and sit back and watch the world develop the best. This will also leave us flexible to use the OSG as a protocol for doing 3D on the web, or whatever. We can write the viewers, traversers, MP harnesses, and channel config software as separate packages. Further, I think this will help in the acceptability of OSG as a good standard scene graph. One of Performer's biggest weaknesses is that it is a huge API and the learning curve is so steep that many but the most hearty are put off by it. We can make the Scene Graph that anyone can use. o Would the OSG be a good candidate for terrain visualization. Terrain is one of the great candidates for scene graphs. Two management schemes will help you out : Level Of Detail management and Visibility Culling. LOD management consists of defining your visual database (including your terrain) with differing levels of detail. The further away you are the less detail your terrain needs to have and you can cut down on the amount of polygons required to render it. You can also do this with objects in your scene. For example from 10 meters, you'd like a barn to have all the details present, but from 1000 meters, you could probably get away with the lack of the silo, windows and detail around the doors. From 10000 meters it could just as easily be a square red box and at 15000 meters it might as well not be there since its representation may be less than a pixel on the screen. Visibility Culling is also important to high performance rendering, especially if your visual database is large. All nodes on the scene graph have a bounding sphere. Each parent node has a bounding sphere that encompasses all of its children. The Cull process traverses the scene graph and tests each node for whether any part of it is in the current viewing frustum. If not it throws it away. With this in mind, you can arrange your database to make best use of culling. For example, if you have a lot of trees on your terrain. Rather than having one Group node that contains all trees (in which case Cull would have to test every tree for visibility), you arrange your trees in a hierarchical fashion, such that trees are group by geographical location. Then neighboring groups of trees can be parented together, groups of groups can be parented together and so forth. This way Cull can visit a high level node, determine that none of the trees under it are visible and proceed to test the rest of the scene graph. This also works for terrain. Rather than defining one large piece of terrain, you should break it up into smaller sections. This way, what is not in the viewing frustum can be discarded and the rendering pipeline left unbothered by transforming and clipping polygons that would never appear anyway. One of the goals of OSG is to be, again, "Just a scene graph". Which means that the Cull traversal would not be included as part of the software. It would be up to the user to provide that, OR, we can add it as a separate piece outside of the scene graph. We want users to not be limited to what WE think might be the best cull traversal, but rather leave it as an exercise to optimize, be creative and/or create specific cull/draw traversals that best suit your needs. One such traversal I can think of is a game in which you are on a track. At any point on this track you can know exactly what is in view and what is not. You could do something much more creative with this if you are not limited to the implementation "hard coded" in the scene graph software. o What are the intended target platforms? Any platform which supports OpenGL and Standard C++! The real limit being the platforms available to the core developers, if you have a platform which you need supported and have some time to contribute please contact us. o What platforms are currently supported? The OSG is currently developed under Windows95, Linux,Irix and MacOS. Platform specific makedefs are provided for Linux and Irix, and VisualC++ 6.0 Workspace files for MS Windows platforms. The OSG also compiles under Windows98/NT and 2000. o What further platforms will be supported in the near future? We will be developing autoconf makefiles to assist the porting to other Unix's as well as improving things on Linux and Irix. o I'm wondering when the OSG will be ready for release. An alpha version has been available since May 2000. The current version is very much a work in progress will the API still in flux. Once the design converges to a stable API we will issue it as a beta, depending on the various factors one would hope to have the API nailed down during early-mid 2001. A full release with stable API and implementation will be available... Can't set any dates but we can be sure it'll be after then beta release :-) o What are the dependencies of the OSG? Kept to a minimum by design. The osg scene graph library simply requires OpenGL/Mesa and compiler support for Standard C++. This means that there is not platform specific depedancies, and should allow the OSG to be ported easily to new platforms. The scene graph viewer sgv depends upon the osg library and GLUT, so should be portable to any platform which GLUT can be ported to. The viewer can also be compiled with FLTK using its GLUT compatibility code. o Do you think Open Scene Graph could be a nice replacement for Inventor? Depends what your want from your scene graph. If you primary interest is a visual simulation application then the performance emphasis of the OSG will be appropriate, if you want to develop a modeling application and wish to take advantage out of the box UI tools then Inventor may be better. o What differentiation between the OSG and other OS projects such as OpenRM/ SGL/OpenSG/DDG Toolkit? I have briefly looked both the SGL, DDG and the OpenSG. Both the SGL are the OpenSG show some uncanny similarities with the OSG, especially since they all were developed independently. The influence of sgi's Performer, Inventor and Cosmo3D more than likely providing the starting place for designing each of these scene graphs. DDG doesn't show quite the same heritage, and possibly loses a little cleanness of design with it. OpenRM is an attempt at a Object Orientated scene graph but it C... This is about a close as I got with it, as IMHO C++ really is currently the best language for a modern scene graph The OSG is also strongly influenced by Performer, this a due to the application which the OSG was first developed for : a Hang Gliding Flight simulator which can use either Performer or the OSG for its scene graph. The OSG does not try to implement the whole of Performer though, just concentrating of the scene graph to keep the scope in manageable proportions. The need for the OSG comes about because Performer is only available on Irix with Linux only happening very recently, and Performer is closed source of course. The OSG also takes advantage of the features of Standard C++ and Design Patterns to help make the library cleaner and improve its extensibility. Many of the current scene graphs, including Inventor and its clones, don't use STL so end up having define their own container and many common algorithms. We're glad to say that Standard C++ compilers are now common enough that we don't have to descend the lowest common denominator like many older scene graphs. The OpenSG design document looks like it describes a very powerful scene graph design, taking on almost all what Performer tackles today. However, this will mean that it will be big, and like the Inventor clones will take *alot* of work to fully implement. If you need all the features then the OpenSG may well be worth the wait. If you need less features then the more humble goals of the OSG may well be right for you. o Is there a class diagram for the OSG, or white paper on the projects goals? The documentation in the distribution has been generated automatically using the excellent Open Source tool doc++, which creates class diagrams. UML diagrams have been generated and can be found in the documentation directory, along with mind maps on design patterns used in the osg, and the mission/goals of the osg. We haven't written an official white paper on projects goals or a design overview yet. Knowledge of Performer will help in understanding some of the basics of design, as will a familiarity with Design Patterns. o Do you need C++ coding support? Yes, indeed! Check out the TODO list which comes with the distribution, and email us with what you fancy contributing to. o Any recommendations for useful programming books to read to help understand and contribute to the OSG? Good practices are surprisingly hard to come by. C and C++ give you so much rope to hang yourself, but there's few books which really give a developers the rule book of good coding practices. I found Effective C++ a refreshing contribution to this end. The Design Patterns book can be pretty useful as well. o Is there a mailing list? Yes indeed, hosted by source forge, so to subscribe head to : http://sourceforge.net/projects/openscenegraph and follow the 'Lists' link and follow the instructions. o How do I submit my contributions? We will eventually be setting up CVS access, possibly with SourceForge. Up till then send your changes, to